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	<title>Comments on: Louisville, NY Rebublican Committee Chair to Gillibrand, Schumer and McHugh: Time for Real Transparency Legislation</title>
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		<title>By: r2streu</title>
		<link>http://slcliberty.blogivists.com/2009/05/18/louisville-ny-rebublican-committee-chair-to-gillibrand-schumer-and-mchugh-time-for-real-transparency-legislation/comment-page-1/#comment-75</link>
		<dc:creator>r2streu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 13:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, good.  So now we&#039;ve gone completely off topic and retreated to BushLied(tm).  

Nah.  Take that somewhere else.  I don&#039;t have time for Soros talking points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, good.  So now we&#8217;ve gone completely off topic and retreated to BushLied(tm).  </p>
<p>Nah.  Take that somewhere else.  I don&#8217;t have time for Soros talking points.</p>
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		<title>By: Mayme</title>
		<link>http://slcliberty.blogivists.com/2009/05/18/louisville-ny-rebublican-committee-chair-to-gillibrand-schumer-and-mchugh-time-for-real-transparency-legislation/comment-page-1/#comment-73</link>
		<dc:creator>Mayme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 12:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For eight years no one had time to read any of the Bush legislation. We committed ourselves to an unending war costing in excess of $600 billion.   http://zfacts.com/p/447.html   They were also allowed to change banking rules that got us into this financial mess. 

Our young soldiers have died during the Bush fiasco of lies, that is something that needs a letter!

I don&#039;t remember Ms. Foster ever writing a letter to our Senators during the blackout of the Bush years. If she did, I&#039;ll be happy to address her comments. She is just whining because she can&#039;t find anything else. The deficit is a direct result of years of over spending by Republicans, not this administration. Wars to secure pipelines of gas and oil, for private companies is NOT the business of government. If they can&#039;t secure their own interests; we should not be sending our soldiers to do it.  Everyone knows that is why we had oil men running the country for the last two sessions. Look at the tax dollars that have gone to PRIVATE Corporations to build PRIVATE militaries. No where in the Constitution does it even hint that we are to pay taxes to build private militarys for private companies. http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Mercenaries/BushShadowArmy_Blackwater.html

I suspect you don&#039;t know what a true conservative is. A conservative does not do Nation Building, no does it use tax money to prop up failing corporations.

Also, the privatization of the armed forces does nothing but quadruple the cost of military operations with no real benefits for anybody, except those who are getting rich at the prospect of killing. Private contractors in defense right now have so much money, they actually don&#039;t know how to spend it. My friend just told me that his son who is a contractor in Arlington asked his dad how his company could spend the money they had, because if they don&#039;t spend it all they will get less next year. His father, my friend, was in the diplomatic core and I guess he thought that his dad would know.

You need to stop listening to corporate news and find Real News</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For eight years no one had time to read any of the Bush legislation. We committed ourselves to an unending war costing in excess of $600 billion.   <a href="http://zfacts.com/p/447.html" rel="nofollow">http://zfacts.com/p/447.html</a>   They were also allowed to change banking rules that got us into this financial mess. </p>
<p>Our young soldiers have died during the Bush fiasco of lies, that is something that needs a letter!</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t remember Ms. Foster ever writing a letter to our Senators during the blackout of the Bush years. If she did, I&#8217;ll be happy to address her comments. She is just whining because she can&#8217;t find anything else. The deficit is a direct result of years of over spending by Republicans, not this administration. Wars to secure pipelines of gas and oil, for private companies is NOT the business of government. If they can&#8217;t secure their own interests; we should not be sending our soldiers to do it.  Everyone knows that is why we had oil men running the country for the last two sessions. Look at the tax dollars that have gone to PRIVATE Corporations to build PRIVATE militaries. No where in the Constitution does it even hint that we are to pay taxes to build private militarys for private companies. <a href="http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Mercenaries/BushShadowArmy_Blackwater.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Mercenaries/BushShadowArmy_Blackwater.html</a></p>
<p>I suspect you don&#8217;t know what a true conservative is. A conservative does not do Nation Building, no does it use tax money to prop up failing corporations.</p>
<p>Also, the privatization of the armed forces does nothing but quadruple the cost of military operations with no real benefits for anybody, except those who are getting rich at the prospect of killing. Private contractors in defense right now have so much money, they actually don&#8217;t know how to spend it. My friend just told me that his son who is a contractor in Arlington asked his dad how his company could spend the money they had, because if they don&#8217;t spend it all they will get less next year. His father, my friend, was in the diplomatic core and I guess he thought that his dad would know.</p>
<p>You need to stop listening to corporate news and find Real News</p>
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		<title>By: r2streu</title>
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		<dc:creator>r2streu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 10:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you DO understand that this doesn&#039;t cover the concerns in the letter, right?

Are you &lt;i&gt;opposed&lt;/i&gt; to this legislation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you DO understand that this doesn&#8217;t cover the concerns in the letter, right?</p>
<p>Are you <i>opposed</i> to this legislation?</p>
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		<title>By: Mayme</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mayme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 15:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMB Watch Applauds Obama Administration&#039;s Step Forward on Open Government

www.ombwatch.org/node/10035


WASHINGTON, May 22, 2009—On Jan. 21, President Barack Obama issued a memo about the Open Government Directive. The memo gave the Chief Technology Officer (CTO) 120 days to develop recommendations for the directive. This effort has taken a slightly different direction that is encouraging collaboration and public engagement.

On May 21, the 120-day mark, the Office of Science and Technology Policy posted a notice in the Federal Register asking for ideas from the public on possible recommendations for the Open Government Directive that Obama tasked them to produce. The deadline for public comments, however, is June 19, apparently extending the May 20 deadline for official recommendations from the CTO. The administration also took additional efforts toward government openness:

    * The new Open Government Initiative homepage on the White House website,   www.whitehouse.gov/open, features the announcement of the new public participation process; links to a brainstorming site (see below); and an innovation gallery of transparency, participation, and collaboration improvements.
    * The Open Government Brainstorm site,    opengov.ideascale.com,    run by the National Academy of Public Administration (NAPA), provides the ability to submit, comment on, and vote for open government directive ideas in all three categories – transparency, participation, and collaboration – from May 21 to May 28.
    * The open government &quot;From the Inbox&quot; page,       www.ostp.gov/cs/opengov/from-the-inbox/,   hosted by the Office of Science and Technology Policy, features recommendations and communications for the Open Government Directive that the administration has received over the last few months. The government has not yet placed the ideas in these documents on the brainstorming site for reactions, so it is probably incumbent upon submitters to do so.
    * The Federal Register notice, at    edocket.access.gpo.gov/2009/E9-12026.htm,    of the new public process for input into the open government directive. Very basic and generic, the notice points those interested to the new White House site but also provides e-mail and mailing addresses for comments.
    * The administration also announced yesterday the launch of Data.gov and a comments process for Regulations.gov.

Reversing the entrenched culture of government secrecy is a challenging task for any administration. Some government openness advocates had hoped the process would be further along by this point, but many also understand that the process was delayed by the late appointment of the CTO. The right-to-know community is pleased that the Obama administration is creating an opportunity for public involvement before all the policy decisions are already made.

OMB Watch Executive Director Gary D. Bass commented, &quot;We are hopeful that the participatory process the government has launched will lead to better outcomes.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMB Watch Applauds Obama Administration&#8217;s Step Forward on Open Government</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ombwatch.org/node/10035" rel="nofollow">http://www.ombwatch.org/node/10035</a></p>
<p>WASHINGTON, May 22, 2009—On Jan. 21, President Barack Obama issued a memo about the Open Government Directive. The memo gave the Chief Technology Officer (CTO) 120 days to develop recommendations for the directive. This effort has taken a slightly different direction that is encouraging collaboration and public engagement.</p>
<p>On May 21, the 120-day mark, the Office of Science and Technology Policy posted a notice in the Federal Register asking for ideas from the public on possible recommendations for the Open Government Directive that Obama tasked them to produce. The deadline for public comments, however, is June 19, apparently extending the May 20 deadline for official recommendations from the CTO. The administration also took additional efforts toward government openness:</p>
<p>    * The new Open Government Initiative homepage on the White House website,   <a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/open" rel="nofollow">http://www.whitehouse.gov/open</a>, features the announcement of the new public participation process; links to a brainstorming site (see below); and an innovation gallery of transparency, participation, and collaboration improvements.<br />
    * The Open Government Brainstorm site,    opengov.ideascale.com,    run by the National Academy of Public Administration (NAPA), provides the ability to submit, comment on, and vote for open government directive ideas in all three categories – transparency, participation, and collaboration – from May 21 to May 28.<br />
    * The open government &#8220;From the Inbox&#8221; page,       <a href="http://www.ostp.gov/cs/opengov/from-the-inbox/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ostp.gov/cs/opengov/from-the-inbox/</a>,   hosted by the Office of Science and Technology Policy, features recommendations and communications for the Open Government Directive that the administration has received over the last few months. The government has not yet placed the ideas in these documents on the brainstorming site for reactions, so it is probably incumbent upon submitters to do so.<br />
    * The Federal Register notice, at    edocket.access.gpo.gov/2009/E9-12026.htm,    of the new public process for input into the open government directive. Very basic and generic, the notice points those interested to the new White House site but also provides e-mail and mailing addresses for comments.<br />
    * The administration also announced yesterday the launch of Data.gov and a comments process for Regulations.gov.</p>
<p>Reversing the entrenched culture of government secrecy is a challenging task for any administration. Some government openness advocates had hoped the process would be further along by this point, but many also understand that the process was delayed by the late appointment of the CTO. The right-to-know community is pleased that the Obama administration is creating an opportunity for public involvement before all the policy decisions are already made.</p>
<p>OMB Watch Executive Director Gary D. Bass commented, &#8220;We are hopeful that the participatory process the government has launched will lead to better outcomes.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: r2streu</title>
		<link>http://slcliberty.blogivists.com/2009/05/18/louisville-ny-rebublican-committee-chair-to-gillibrand-schumer-and-mchugh-time-for-real-transparency-legislation/comment-page-1/#comment-70</link>
		<dc:creator>r2streu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2009 10:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The ballot box is the public&#039;s oversight.&quot;  Partly.  

You make my point for me, I think.

These people DO work for the likes of you and me.  Whether or not they recognize that is part of the issue here.  A big part of this letter by Mrs. Foster, a big part of the nationwide tea parties, was about reminding these career politicians exactly by whom they are employed. 

The government is made for the people, not the people for the government.  We do not exist to serve their interests, nor to fund through taxation whatever dumbass idea they might happen to come up with.

When a few Legislators force through an 11,000-word bill with less than a day to read it before calling a vote, that is a profound act of neglect and of professional misconduct -- and frankly, it smacks of corruption.  That a majority in the Legislature voted &quot;aye&quot; anyway is, I think, an indicator of exactly how deep that corruption runs.

Personally, I would advocate the ouster of anyone who voted for it.  Anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The ballot box is the public&#8217;s oversight.&#8221;  Partly.  </p>
<p>You make my point for me, I think.</p>
<p>These people DO work for the likes of you and me.  Whether or not they recognize that is part of the issue here.  A big part of this letter by Mrs. Foster, a big part of the nationwide tea parties, was about reminding these career politicians exactly by whom they are employed. </p>
<p>The government is made for the people, not the people for the government.  We do not exist to serve their interests, nor to fund through taxation whatever dumbass idea they might happen to come up with.</p>
<p>When a few Legislators force through an 11,000-word bill with less than a day to read it before calling a vote, that is a profound act of neglect and of professional misconduct &#8212; and frankly, it smacks of corruption.  That a majority in the Legislature voted &#8220;aye&#8221; anyway is, I think, an indicator of exactly how deep that corruption runs.</p>
<p>Personally, I would advocate the ouster of anyone who voted for it.  Anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Mayme</title>
		<link>http://slcliberty.blogivists.com/2009/05/18/louisville-ny-rebublican-committee-chair-to-gillibrand-schumer-and-mchugh-time-for-real-transparency-legislation/comment-page-1/#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>Mayme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 17:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Oversight, in general, gives the power to do something about misuse. And when the WHOLE BILL is a misuse of the taxpayers’ money, the oversight is pretty meaningless.&quot;

The ballot box is the public&#039;s oversight. Do YOU really think they would want any comment that you or I have to say? These people don&#039;t work for the likes of you and me. They work for those that paid for their assent to office. Oh, there may be one or two who might be interested in us but only one or two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Oversight, in general, gives the power to do something about misuse. And when the WHOLE BILL is a misuse of the taxpayers’ money, the oversight is pretty meaningless.&#8221;</p>
<p>The ballot box is the public&#8217;s oversight. Do YOU really think they would want any comment that you or I have to say? These people don&#8217;t work for the likes of you and me. They work for those that paid for their assent to office. Oh, there may be one or two who might be interested in us but only one or two.</p>
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		<title>By: r2streu</title>
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		<dc:creator>r2streu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 09:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And these are positive steps for the government to take.  However, this is after the fact, and actually does not give the public ANY oversight; merely allows us to see what&#039;s being done.  Oversight, in general, gives the power to do something about misuse.  And when the WHOLE BILL is a misuse of the taxpayers&#039; money, the oversight is pretty meaningless.

What we&#039;re talking about here is allowing legislatures enough time to actually read the bills before they pass -- and to allow the public time to review the same bills and contact their representatives with concerns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And these are positive steps for the government to take.  However, this is after the fact, and actually does not give the public ANY oversight; merely allows us to see what&#8217;s being done.  Oversight, in general, gives the power to do something about misuse.  And when the WHOLE BILL is a misuse of the taxpayers&#8217; money, the oversight is pretty meaningless.</p>
<p>What we&#8217;re talking about here is allowing legislatures enough time to actually read the bills before they pass &#8212; and to allow the public time to review the same bills and contact their representatives with concerns.</p>
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		<title>By: Mayme</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mayme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 00:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome to USAspending.gov - Where Americans Can See  Where Their Money Goes
http://www.usaspending.gov/

The Recovery Accountability and Transparency Board (RATB) is responsible for overseeing all funds under the Recovery Act and providing the public with a direct and immediate link to spending through Recovery.gov. The RATB not only wants to provide the public with unprecedented oversight of Recovery Act funds, but also ensure swift and immediate action to prevent fraud, waste, and mismanagement.
http://www.recovery.gov/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to USAspending.gov &#8211; Where Americans Can See  Where Their Money Goes<br />
<a href="http://www.usaspending.gov/" rel="nofollow">http://www.usaspending.gov/</a></p>
<p>The Recovery Accountability and Transparency Board (RATB) is responsible for overseeing all funds under the Recovery Act and providing the public with a direct and immediate link to spending through Recovery.gov. The RATB not only wants to provide the public with unprecedented oversight of Recovery Act funds, but also ensure swift and immediate action to prevent fraud, waste, and mismanagement.<br />
<a href="http://www.recovery.gov/" rel="nofollow">http://www.recovery.gov/</a></p>
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